Thursday, February 04, 2016

Fear and loathing in the comment section

Marco's coming -- hide your heart, girl.

One thing I've noticed about the campaign is how maniacal some supporters of Donald Trump are. I've been referring to the work of Eric Hoffer in describing what I'm seeing, because there has been evidence of a cult of personality forming around the guy.

Now that the first votes have been cast, it seems like some of the Trump fans are already starting to panic, especially since they can see the hated GOPe (GOP establishment, for those of you who aren't hip to the lingo) might be coalescing around Marco Rubio. Here is a representative comment I saw last night over at HotAir:

I told you Cruz fans. Now Rubio is going to take this race. Well done, anti Trump protest voters, in your fervor to fellate your Jesus and denigrate Trump, you handed the keys to little Marco.

xxxxxx on February 3, 2016 at 9:11 PM

I found that amusing, so I did something I rarely do -- I engaged this guy:

Maybe Trump could make a better argument than the one Rubio is making. Worth a shot, right? Trump’s still leading, right? If Trump has the stuff to win, what the Cruz fans do shouldn’t matter, right?

Mr. D on February 3, 2016 at 9:18 PM

The panicked Trump fan didn't like that:

Wrong. Cruz has always been the protest vote against Trump. Rubio will clean Cruz’s clock now that Rush is behind him and because he outdebates TV Teddy every time they get on stage. Just remember I said it. If they take out Trump, Rubio’s your nominee.

xxxxxx on February 3, 2016 at 9:19 PM

Heh. So I gave the schlub another chance:

Then maybe Trump should handle Rubio first. One way or another, Trump, and by extension his supporters, need to make up their minds on this one. Drop the whoa is me crap and win! If Trump is going to be president, he’s going to need to beat both Cruz and Rubio, and then beat whatever fugitive from Madame Tussauds that the Democrats run against him. There are no short cuts.

Mr. D on February 3, 2016 at 9:28 PM

His response was hilarious:

The only way this works is if Trump and Cruz gang up on Rubio. They should hatch a deal, let the best man win but first get Rubio out of there.

xxxxxx on February 3, 2016 at 9:30 PM

Hatch a deal with the guy who stole Iowa? After all, that's what Trump was saying yesterday:
Donald Trump on Wednesday accused Sen. Ted Cruz of stealing the Iowa caucuses, calling for either new voting there or the results to be nullified.

Meanwhile, Ben Carson hit CNN for what he said was an inaccurate report that he was leaving the race on Monday, even though the network only reported that he was heading home to Florida for a short break after the caucuses.

"Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified," Donald Trump wrote a Twitter, one of a series of Tweets attacking Cruz and questioning the outcome of the Iowa caucuses.
The "fraud" in question was that Cruz operatives took the CNN report and emailed it out to their field representatives just as the caucuses were beginning, with an additional suggestion that they share the news and see if they could flip Carson supporters to Cruz. That's not cheating -- that's smart politics. There's no evidence that this gambit was even successful, but never mind that. It couldn't be that Cruz did the hard work of finding and motivating people to come to the caucus. It couldn't have been that the polls were somehow wrong, or that national polling doesn't necessarily tell you what's happening from place to place. It couldn't be that Trump's bluster might have motivated people to vote against him.

So anyway, I had to give the panicked Trump supporter another dig:

Fine, then Trump should do that. If that’s the solution, maybe he should stop talking about Iowa and look ahead. That’s allowed.

Mr. D on February 3, 2016 at 9:34 PM

He didn't respond to that, and it's just as well. Generally, I find a lot of Trump supporters tiresome. I do understand the reason for panic. A big part of the Trump theory of the race is that he's winning everywhere and that he's inevitable for that reason. As it turns out, he might not be inevitable. At this point, no one is inevitable. So now Trump will have to convince people that he has a plan and an agenda for how he intends to execute his plan. Argument by assertion is not going to carry the day.

7 comments:

Gino said...

'Woe' not 'Whoa'.

(Heh... i just played the grammar nazi to an english major/ professional writer... thatll never happen again.)

Mr. D said...

(Heh... i just played the grammar nazi to an english major/ professional writer... thatll never happen again.)

Take a bow, Gino. I didn't even notice that; must have auto-corrected in the original. Heh!

jerrye92002 said...

Here's the funny part about that "Marco is GOPe" meme. A) he's not, by a long shot, and B) as one wag observed, if the GOPe really wanted to get rid of Trump all they would have to do is get solidly behind him!

Gino said...

Rubio is GOPe. he's a Bush baby. nothing will change if he is elected.

3john2 said...

"Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified," Donald Trump wrote a Twitter, one of a series of Tweets attacking Cruz and questioning the outcome of the Iowa caucuses.

Trump sounds more and more like a Democrat all the time.

jerrye92002 said...

"Rubio is GOPe. he's a Bush baby. nothing will change if he is elected. "

So, are all the millions of $ the Bushies spend attacking Rubio all for show? Based on debate statements and website issue positions, doesn't he look like the "full-throated conservative" Rush Limbaugh describes him as?

And just when I had changed my mind and decided that Trump was NOT a vanity campaign, he turns around and makes statements that prove he is. I mean, he sounds like the high school jock who lost out to some lovable nerd for homecoming king.

jerrye92002 said...

BTW, Rubio has a 98% lifetime ACU score. Senate Republicans stand at 60. Cruz is at 100.